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What to do with the decrepit raspberry bushes? #865525

Asked April 22, 2024, 11:05 PM EDT

Hi there, We have some very old (22 years) raspberry bushes which are having a problem. They seem to fruit later and later every year. The earlier blossoms turn black and dry up without producing fruit. Then new blossoms grow and give fruit in mid-October and early November. The season gets shorter and shorter as the cold weather comes on. We know we need to replace them. Our question is—can we plant the new ones right where these old ones were? Or is it a disease that will be transmitted to the new plants? Anything special we should do to the soil before we plant new ones? Anything special we need to do with the old ones after we pull them up? There are a lot of them. Thanks so so much for your help!

Washington County Vermont

Expert Response

Hi Nikki,

Thank you for submitting your question to the UVM Extension Master Gardener Helpline.

Wow 22 years! You must have taken good care of them to have any harvest at all from such old raspberries bushes.

From your description of the black, dried up early blossoms, but unaffected fall blossoms, I suspect Botrytis which is a fungal infection common in raspberries. Wet, warm temperatures in spring predispose to this fungus which would explain why you don't see this in the colder temperatures in fall. Removing dead material, pruning, and minimizing overhead watering  are important in management. Management of Botrytis and other raspberry diseases are further discussed in this article https://extension.umn.edu/raspberry-farming/raspberry-diseases

If you have a choice of starting another area for your new raspberries, I would definitely do so since this fungus can overwinter. To turn this old area into a productive plot in the future, clean up and bag all of the old plants to discard. Burning the debris would be another option if your area allows this.

Plant a cover crop and turn it in, leave otherwise unplanted for a year. I would do a soil test early next year to see what amendments you would need to reuse this area but I would probably avoid berries there. You could grow peas or red clover this spring and till in. A good list of spring and fall cover crops is listed here https://www.uvm.edu/vtvegandberry/factsheets/covercrops.html

This article has an extensive discussion of raspberry cultivars, site selection, nutrient management, pruning and common problems in raspberries https://extension.oregonstate.edu/catalog/pub/ec-1306-growing-raspberries-your-home-garden#common-problems

Best of luck and please let us know if you still have questions.


Amazing, thank you so much for this thorough and helpful answer! What a wonderful resource you are!

On Tuesday, April 23, 2024, Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
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Dear Nikki, here's the response to your question:

Hi Nikki,

Thank you for submitting your question to the UVM Extension Master Gardener Helpline.

Wow 22 years! You must have taken good care of them to have any harvest at all from such old raspberries bushes.

From your description of the black, dried up early blossoms, but unaffected fall blossoms, I suspect Botrytis which is a fungal infection common in raspberries. Wet, warm temperatures in spring predispose to this fungus which would explain why you don't see this in the colder temperatures in fall. Removing dead material, pruning, and minimizing overhead watering  are important in management. Management of Botrytis and other raspberry diseases are further discussed in this article https://extension.umn.edu/raspberry-farming/raspberry-diseases

If you have a choice of starting another area for your new raspberries, I would definitely do so since this fungus can overwinter. To turn this old area into a productive plot in the future, clean up and bag all of the old plants to discard. Burning the debris would be another option if your area allows this.

Plant a cover crop and turn it in, leave otherwise unplanted for a year. I would do a soil test early next year to see what amendments you would need to reuse this area but I would probably avoid berries there. You could grow peas or red clover this spring and till in. A good list of spring and fall cover crops is listed here https://www.uvm.edu/vtvegandberry/factsheets/covercrops.html

This article has an extensive discussion of raspberry cultivars, site selection, nutrient management, pruning and common problems in raspberries https://extension.oregonstate.edu/catalog/pub/ec-1306-growing-raspberries-your-home-garden#common-problems

Best of luck and please let us know if you still have questions.



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The Question Asker Replied April 23, 2024, 12:34 PM EDT
Your very welcome, Nikki!  
An Ask Extension Expert Replied April 23, 2024, 12:45 PM EDT

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