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Black Walnut or Butternut #859848

Asked February 25, 2024, 3:59 PM EST

Why does my butternut tree produce fruit that looks like black walnuts and not like typical butternuts? The butternut leaves stay green until the first killer frost and then they all drop off a couple of days later. My other black walnut tree loses its leaves before a killer frost in mid September. Thanks, Bob Weinzierl 612.720.9206

Hennepin County Minnesota

Expert Response

Good Morning Bob, 

Thank you for contacting the U of M Extension Service. 

Please click on the following link: tps://mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/field-guide/butternut

Butternut trees are in the same family as walnuts. Butternut is called the "white" walnut. You did not indicate how old the trees are. Are you sure of their identification? 

Here is another link to the MN DNR: https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/trees/butternut.html

And another link to the Arbor Day Foundation: https://arbordayblog.org/treeoftheweek/the-butternut-tree/

I would suggest as the tree leaf out and produce their blooms, that you use some of the above research to ensure you have butternut trees. 

I have also attached a very detailed document from Perdue University about butternuts and a detailed nut identification guide. 

Good Luck!

Maureen Graber Replied February 26, 2024, 9:52 AM EST
Thanks Maureen, 

What bugs me is that both of my 30 year old trees produce fruit that looks the same. However, the trees, vegetatively are very different.  The one that actually was sold to me from the Arbor Day Foundation as a "Butternut" holds on to unchanged green leaves and fruit till a killing frost. I know what a normal butternut fruit looks like. I dare anyone to be able to tell the difference between the real Black Walnut and the so called "Butternut" fruit. Maybe there are Black Walnut subspecies?

Cheers,
Bob



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-------- Original message --------
From: Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>>
Date: 2/26/24 8:53 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: "Weinzierl Jr, Robert M" <<personal data hidden>>
Subject: Re: Black Walnut or Butternut (#0129772)

The Question Asker Replied February 26, 2024, 10:16 AM EST

Good Morning Bob, 

I agree possible subspecies or maybe they cross pollinated since they are in the same family. 

Glad your trees are healthy and happy in this climate! 

Good Luck!

Maureen Graber Replied February 27, 2024, 8:09 AM EST
Thanks Maureen, 

I didn't think they could cross pollinate. 

Kind regards,
Bob



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-------- Original message --------
From: Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>>
Date: 2/27/24 7:09 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: "Weinzierl Jr, Robert M" <<personal data hidden>>
Subject: Re: Black Walnut or Butternut (#0129772)

The Question Asker Replied February 27, 2024, 5:47 PM EST

Good Morning Bob, 

I don't know if they can cross pollinate. I am just speculating. 

I have also planted trees from the Arbor Day Foundation. They come as bare root small sticks. Again, I'd watch them closely as they leaf out and bloom in the spring. Maybe the above research will help to specifically identify them. 

Good Luck!


Maureen Graber Replied February 28, 2024, 7:47 AM EST

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