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Oxalic acid / Drone frames #857745

Asked January 24, 2024, 5:02 AM EST

Hello. Had a couple questions and thought I would send them during your "quiet" time in so far as beekeeping goes. Last year I asked about whether Oxalic Acid (OA) is allowed with honey supers on and Meghan replied that the Api-Bioxal (only with the label allowing it) is currently allowed with honey supers. I have some and looked at the label on both my OA containers and both show the same ingredients. The only reason I can think of that comes to mind is that the Api-Bioxal was tested and others were not? Do you know if that's the case, and if not, why is all OA not allowed with honey supers on if they share the same ingredients? Second question: Each year I put in empty frames in my colonies to create and remove drone come as part of my IPM for varorra mites throughout the year. I was just reading a book where they recommend removing / freezing the frames, scraping the cappings, but then putting them back in and having the bees removed the dead pupae and cleaning out the cells. I know that building wax is very labor intensive for bees and hate to completely remove the comb and start from scratch and wondered if any of you do drone comb removal and if so, do you cut the wax comb completely out, or freeze, scrape off the cappings and reinstall for the bees to clean? Just want to make things as easy as I can for my bees. I'm also reading about removing the drone comb from various colonies and instead of discarding them, installing them in a "drone nuc" which is heavy in drone just so I'm not depriving my apiaries of too much drone for mating. Have any of you had success doing that? Of course I worry about varroa immigration to other colonies as my apiaries are all within our 10 acre plot. I'm just now getting to a point where I'll have enough colonies to explore and expand in trying some new things to help keep my bees healthy and productive. Thanks very much!!!!

St. Clair County Michigan

Expert Response

Thanks for reaching out!

The U.S. Enviornmental Protection Agency recently released information on varroa mite treatments: Advisory on the Applicability of FIFRA and FFDCA for Substances used to Control Varroa Mites in Beehives | US EPA. In their document, there is a question and answer related to your question:

"Is it a violation of FIFRA or FFDCA to sell or distribute food derived from beehives (e.g., honey, comb, wax, propolis, royal jelly, pollen) harvested from beehives treated with unregistered products?

"Pesticide applications to bee colonies may result in pesticide residues in or on food derived from beehives (e.g., honey, and/or honeycomb, wax, propolis, royal jelly, pollen).. Off-the-shelf products that contain active ingredients but are not registered may contain “other ingredients” or may be combined with other substances for which tolerances or exemptions have not been established. Honey that contains residues of a formulation comprised of multiple substances (e.g., an active ingredient and other ingredients) where those residues are not covered by a tolerance or exemption from the requirement of a tolerance, would be considered adulterated. The sale and distribution of adulterated honey would be a violation of the FFDCA.

"For example, although oxalic acid (40 CFR 180.1381), formic acid (40 CFR 180.1178), and thymol (40 CFR 180.1240(a)) have the appropriate tolerance exemptions established for in-hive applications, unregistered products that contain these chemicals may also contain other ingredients or substances that lack a tolerance. Applying those products (alone or in combination) to a beehive may result in pesticide residues from those other ingredients in honey that are not covered by an existing tolerance or exemption under FFDCA. EPA believes it is likely that unregistered products contain other ingredients or substances for which tolerances have not been established under FFDCA."


We don't do much systematic drone comb removal on campus. If both drone comb removal strategies you mentioned (tossing the drone comb or freezing it and then returning it to the hives) work for you, I'd personally be inclined to reuse the wax comb.


Unless you are rearing lots of queens and have dozens or hundreds of mating nucs, I doubt you need to keep the drone comb to increase the number of drones for mating. Queens generally fly further from the hives than drones do (which prevents inbreeding), so increasing the number of drones on your 10-acre plot where your queens are wouldn't necessarily increase the number of drones your queens mate with.

Happy beekeeping!

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