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Soil test kit #853339

Asked October 17, 2023, 1:48 PM EDT

Good afternoon- I was looking to improve a certain area of my lawn that seems to struggle every summer. The grass will turn yellow until late August and only certain spots will remain green. I'm waiting to see if there is a soil test kit I could purchase to to help rectify this issue? Thank you!

Tuscarawas County Ohio

Expert Response

Hi, You could buy a soil test kit.  I'm in Franklin County and our Extension office sells them.  Probably your Extension office does, too.  Here is their website:
https://extension.osu.edu/tuscarawas-county-office
That said, it will tell you what's wrong with your soil but I would guess that you may have a problem with the kinds of grass you have growing.  Maybe you have weedy grasses or warm season grasses that don't green up like the grasses we want to grow.  Could you send me some photos of your lawn including some close-ups of the different types of grass and I'll try to get them identified?  Also, if you grab the grass, can you pull it right out including the roots?  That would be a sign of grub damage.
(That's what I was doing earlier today).
Barb Replied October 17, 2023, 3:39 PM EDT
Here are some pics of my lawn, sorry for so many.  You’ll notice the section that is really thin in my backyard that is somewhat green during the spring and late fall. I don’t have any issues with the rest of the yard, just this area. Thanks!

Mike
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On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 4:51 PM Mike pryor <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
Hi Barb, 

Thank you for the info! I will definitely send you some pics of my grass type. It definitely does not pull out so I don’t think grubs are an issue. This seems to be an issue each summer in the same area even after we’ve had plenty of rain. I’ll send you the pics asap. Thank you for your help also!

Mike 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 3:39 PM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 02, 2023, 12:13 PM EDT
Hi Barb, 

Thank you for the info! I will definitely send you some pics of my grass type. It definitely does not pull out so I don’t think grubs are an issue. This seems to be an issue each summer in the same area even after we’ve had plenty of rain. I’ll send you the pics asap. Thank you for your help also!

Mike 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 3:39 PM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 02, 2023, 12:14 PM EDT
Hi,
Thanks for the photos!  The more, the better.  The first photo is NOT of the problem area, right?  I see the area in the back yard that is less green than the rest. Is the close-up of the problem area?  When were those taken?  Did it ever green up as much as the rest of it?  And what does that area look like now?  Could you take a close-up of it now?
I am gathering info that I know my former turfgrass prof will ask.
Thanks,
Barb   
Barb Replied November 03, 2023, 2:10 PM EDT
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Hello Barb,
The first pic from my  last email is my front yard, NO issues there.The only time this  rough area will green up is in spring and in late August, early September.  This is the only time it will thicken /green up like the rest of the lawn. 

I’ve attached pics from all the seasons for this area with the dates.  I also overseeded this fall and added some lime to this area as well. Thanks!

Mike



On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 2:10 PM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 06, 2023, 9:12 AM EST
Where was the close-up taken?  In the problem area?
Barb Replied November 06, 2023, 3:11 PM EST
Yes, in that area. It’s about 6k sqft area in total. 

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 3:11 PM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 06, 2023, 4:15 PM EST
Hi, I've sent your question and some pics to my turfgrass professor and will get back to you with what he says.  I'm thinking it might be rough bluegrass in that area.  Here's some info about rough bluegrass:
https://www.extension.iastate.edu/turfgrass/blog/nick-christians/brown-areas-your-lawn-it-could-be-rough-bluegrass-poa-trivialis
Barb
Barb Replied November 10, 2023, 4:09 PM EST
Hello Barb- Thank you for the help and info! 

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 4:09 PM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 11, 2023, 2:18 PM EST
Hi again,
Well, Dr. Gardner (Turfgrass and horticulture prof at OSU) got back to me and this is what he said:

"I’m inclined to think it’s a soil issue. The only closeup shows a mix of ryegrass and tall fescue and its probably the ryegrass that fades more than the tall fescue which is why the patch does not have dramatic borders and seems to have some green still in it. I don’t know what a soil test will tell him for this issue. If he takes a core out of the area that remains green and then a core out of the area that yellows out my guess is that the area that stays green will have more dark soil/organic matter compared to the other area which may be straight clay. What happens then is in the middle of summer the heavy clay areas have an infiltration capacity of about 0.07 inches per hour so keeping them wetted with run of the mill sprinklers can be very difficult – most of the water just runs off.

If this is the case, then the fix is long term in nature – topdressing and core aerification for several years or until an improvement is realized."

So - he identified the grasses in that close-up and they are not what I thought they were (rough bluegrass) but he has offered a long-term solution.  Let me know if you have any more questions and good luck.  Might I say, you have a large lawn and most of it is looks great!

Let me know if I can be of further assistance,

Barb Replied November 13, 2023, 2:38 PM EST
Hello! Thank you and the professor for all the help and information, very valuable! I will continue working on this area with the recommendations given by the professor. 
Thank you and working on making it all look good, lol! Have a great day !

Mike 

On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 2:38 PM Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
The Question Asker Replied November 13, 2023, 4:25 PM EST
You're most welcome.  I appreciate Dr. Gardner being  able and willing to help,
Barb  
Barb Replied November 14, 2023, 10:26 AM EST

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