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magnolia suffering #774184

Asked October 04, 2021, 4:57 PM EDT

We have a Lily Magnolia from April 2008 that has decided not to be a dwarf. It's almost as big as a nearby maple. I've been treating it for magnolia scale, but I'm not so sure now. There are white spots on the trunk, but they are not dome shaped, nor do they rub off. We've applied a Feed and Protect product with Imidacloprid and clothianidin; however, leaves are still turning brown and falling off whole branches. I haven't seen any nymphs running around the tree. I haven't noticed any of that scale excrement that might attract other insects. Please see the attached pictures.

Livingston County Michigan

Expert Response

The white spots you photographed are not magnolia scale. Magnolia scale insects are easily visible, domed, and covered in a fuzzy white wax earlier in the season (https://hort.extension.wisc.edu/articles/magnolia-scale/). What is pictured could be a lichen. Lichens frequently grow on trees, rocks, and other outdoor structures but the lichens do not damage the tree (https://njaes.rutgers.edu/fs1205/).
An Ask Extension Expert Replied October 06, 2021, 2:05 PM EDT

What might I look for? The soil pH is high, about 7.9. I have read that magnolias like 5-6. I've added sulfur to some areas to lower pH, mostly left this area with flowers to my spouse. The soil is subject to moisture, but seldom to never flooded. I've added mulch around the magnolia and a maple as one garden bed. I see what I think is anthracnose on a variety of species; apple, hazelnut, paw paw; that, being native, you might think would be fungus free. What could cause a leave to turn chocolate brown? Please see the additional pictures.

The Question Asker Replied October 07, 2021, 6:16 PM EDT

My wife says it's a star magnolia, not a lilly magnolia.

The Question Asker Replied October 07, 2021, 6:44 PM EDT

There are several things that could lead to chlorosis (leaf yellowing) and early leaf loss. Excess or insufficient moisture can be stressful for a tree. This can be the result of the level of water available in the soil or by damaged or malformed roots that are unable to transport water. Root damage can be the result of root rot, mechanical damage from digging, or roots that are intertwined and girdling the tree. These issues would all be below the soil, and aren't something I can tell by looking at a tree. There are also diseases and insects that cause the same symptoms. The lesions (dark spots) on the leaves could indicate a disease. There are both diseases of magnolia that cause leaf spots, but by pictures, I can't differentiate these. If you would like to have someone look at the tree in person, I would recommend contacting an arborist (TreesAreGood.org). If you suspect a disease issue, you can also submit samples to the diagnostic labs on campus (Plant & Pest Diagnostics (msu.edu))

An Ask Extension Expert Replied October 08, 2021, 12:31 PM EDT

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