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Southern Magnolia variety in planter boxes #773895

Asked October 01, 2021, 10:00 PM EDT

Condo has Magnolias in brick planters with metal lining. The small planters are 4 by 4 feet with a depth of about 4 feet. These planters are over the garage. The trees are 15 years old and about 15 - 20 feet tall and are still producing flowers. They were given a root inhibitor treatment two years ago. We are concerned that the roots will push thru the bricks breaking the planter or go thru the cement. We have had several arborist tell us they can't guarantee the trees won't damage planter or garage. Have read the roots are fleshy and therefore couldn't push through metal. Is that true? Should we continue doing root inbititor? Will the trees eventually die because they become root bound before causing damage? Thanks

Multnomah County Oregon

Expert Response

Thank you for your question, Arleen.  There are probably worse choices among deciduous trees for planters, but I can't think of any.  Applying root inhibitors over the longterm is akin to keeping a child's feet in small shoes so the feet won't grow.  And not allowing the tree to grow as its genes command will just not work.  As the following explains, these trees need 60-80 feet vertically  and 30-50 feet horizontally: https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/magnolia-grandiflora/  They are undoubtedly already root bound, and they will not grow nor stay healthy (and safe) if left in this environment.  I suggest you transplant them while it is still possible.  Good luck! 

An Ask Extension Expert Replied October 02, 2021, 11:42 AM EDT
Hi,

The Magnolia is a Gem, a Southern variety,  Magnolia evergreen. This Magnolia appears to be a different variety than you described. Are these Magnolia's roots fleshy as not to break through the planter?  What is their longevity in a planter? Ours are 15 years old?  Do you think root inhibitor will give them a few more years longevity? Know that is hard to determine. We know they will probably need to be replaced. Thanks, Arleen

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The Question Asker Replied October 02, 2021, 12:10 PM EDT

Thank you for clarification.  Here is a similar description for this variety:  https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/publication/st375  It can be used as a container plant; its roots "are not a problem", but this may be only in native soil.  I can find no information about their lifespan in a container, nor the possibility of their breaking the container.  Here is an Extension article on growth retardants:  https://www.extension.purdue.edu/extmedia/fnr/fnr-252-w.pdf  Again, I can find no research on the use of this chemical in containers, since they were created to slow down growth in height, to avoid electrical wires.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied October 02, 2021, 12:30 PM EDT

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Hi again,

Wondered if you had any ideas of what to replace the Magnolias in planters. We want a nondeciduous tree, slow growing. Is there such a tree?  Thought of pines, firs. Someone recommended an hinoki or cedar 
Lebanon Green prince. It would probably be 4 ft and 15 yes old. Maybe there is another variety of Magnolia which is slow growing.??Thanks, Arleen





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I promise this is my last email.  I wrote to Ask Extension from OSU.  Read below. I think we have a little Gem variety, said roots not invasive.  With this said, do nothing and wait and see what happens. I think they will eventually become root  bound and die and not damage the property. Other ideas?? Enjoy the sun!!

Arleen


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The Question Asker Replied October 13, 2021, 1:03 PM EDT

Arleen:  here is a handout from OSU Extension which lists some trees and shrubs which are appropriate for containers:  Spring Garden Fair 10-Minute University (oregonstate.edu)

I hope this is helpful.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied October 13, 2021, 1:15 PM EDT

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