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Red Maple fungus #764066

Asked July 26, 2021, 5:07 PM EDT

Our 20-year old red maple developed this black discoloration at the bottom of the trunk a few months ago. I had a few arborists come and look at the tree. I received varying opinions on the problem. One of the opinions thinks the problem is Phytophthora Canker disease with a recommendation to do 3 treatments of both the bark and soil to help suppress the problem. What is your opinion? Thank you.

Montgomery County Maryland

Expert Response

We would normally defer to arborists who have assessed the tree in person, especially since they can see the condition of the canopy as it can be a decent indicator of overall tree health. However, since you received differing diagnoses, our thoughts are that the tree should get air-spaded to inspect the root collar and probably no fungicides as they are preventative measures only, not curative. Were these individuals certified arborists, or just tree company workers? Credentialed persons are trained and keep up-to-date with new developments in tree care science and best practices; some work as members of a tree-care company while others work independently. You can find certified arborists though this search tool, if needed: https://www.treesaregood.org/findanarborist/arboristsearch

To be fair to the arborists, it can be challenging to diagnose tree ailments since often an array of factors can lead to similar symptoms. Chronic stress takes its toll on trees in suburban conditions, and symptoms may not manifest for months or even years. Sometimes, environmental stress causes sap oozing or leaf loss that might otherwise be attributed to pests or disease. Root system issues often lead to canopy dieback, and some, if caught early, can be corrected to prevent further decline. Phytophthora is a fungus-like organism which can infect plant roots that are kept too wet (or are sited in poor drainage); its damage isn't directly reversible and treatments are questionable if the core issue of soil drainage can't be addressed. Cankers (tissue infections, usually of trunk or branch wood and usually resulting in discoloration or oozing) can be caused by an array of pathogens, and wood-boring insects can also cause sap leaking and resulting discoloration on bark. Both cankers and borers tend to target trees already under stress. "Wet wood" is another disorder which causes bark discoloration but has no cure: https://extension.umd.edu/resource/tree-trunks-wet-wood-or-slime-flux

The tree does not appear to have a visible root flare. This is the point where roots begin to branch off of the trunk, and should sit just at or barely under the soil surface. When tree trunks don't seem to widen noticeably at their base, a buried root flare is likely. This condition promotes (or hides) girdling roots, which can slowly "strangle" the trunk. Air-spading by a tree-care company uses compressed air to gently blast away surface soil to expose th flare or "root collar" (without injuring roots by digging) so it can be examined and any circling roots cut, if possible.
https://extension.umd.edu/resource/girdling-roots

 

Miri

Hi, Miri - thank you for your response.  Sorry I missed it initially, as the response was caught up in my spam in-box.

Thank you for the arborist link.  That's a great link to know about.

Yes, the person who diagnosed the Phytophthora is a certified arborist.  That's a relief.

He did not raise the issues of either air-spading (root flare) or drainage.

He stopped by the house yesterday and said that the tree has stopped oozing, which indicates to him that his treatment is starting to work.  He recommends two more treatments over the next two months.

I am concerned that you said this treatment may not be curative. 

I guess I can just keep an eye on the tree over the coming months.

Thanks,

Alan



 
The Question Asker Replied August 05, 2021, 11:27 AM EDT

Well, "not curative" in the sense that wounds and existing tissue damage in plants does not heal in the same way they would for people. The spread of a pathogen or pest might be halted by treatments, but mainly by a tree's own internal defenses, which include a process called compartmentalization. Essentially, they can wall-off access to healthy tissues by creating areas of dead, fortified cells surrounding compromised wood. Although wound closure (more of a sealing-over than mending back together) can take years, eventually trees can outgrow the original damage if those processes are successful.

Yes, in general, just keep monitoring the tree for changing symptoms or canopy decline in future growing seasons. Red Maple appreciate moist soils and may see a reduction in overall stress if irrigated periodically (as needed) during summer or autumn when rain is lacking.
https://extension.umd.edu/resource/watering-trees-and-shrubs

 

Miri

Thanks.


The Question Asker Replied August 05, 2021, 12:12 PM EDT
Hi, Miri,

I dropped off a lunch bag earlier this week with 2 plastic bags.  In each of those bags, there was one weed sample for Steve to review.  The lunch bag was marked to Steve's attention.

One might be Japanese stiltgrass or something similar.

The other might be creeping charlie, wild violet or some other sort of ivy.

I don't think Steve has been to the office.

Are you at the office on Friday and maybe you could look at those samples, if he's not going to be in on Friday?

I'm really eager to get some information on the weeds that are spreading in my yard.

Thanks so much.

Alan Esenstad


 
The Question Asker Replied August 05, 2021, 7:54 PM EDT

Alan - We are not located at the Montgomery County Extension Office. To check the status of the plant samples you dropped off there, I recommend that you contact Linda Waters or Cathy Yingling. Their contact information is provided on this page of their website. https://extension.umd.edu/locations/montgomery-county/contact

Christa

Okay.

Can samples be dropped off at your office, if you're going into an office to work?

I wonder when Steve will next be at the Ag Center - that's where he said to drop off the samples.

Thanks,

Alan


The Question Asker Replied August 06, 2021, 2:10 PM EDT

Yes, you can drop off plant samples for Steve Dubik at the Montgomery County Extension Office, 18410 Muncaster Rd, Derwood. It would be best to contact Linda Waters or Cathy Yingling there to find out what their process is for reviewing samples that are submitted. The phone number is <personal data hidden>.

The HGIC office is located in Ellicott City and we do not accept plant or insect samples at our location. You are welcome to send us photos of the plants in question (you can attach them here) and we can take a look at them that way.

Christa

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Hi Alan 

I responded earlier this - please see below

Steve Dubik

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Hi Alan

I received your samples and see the pics you sent
the first pic is Violets and other is stiltgrass
below is the link listing pesticides that are acceptable to use in Montgomery County
Your chemical control options are limited - see the above website
When you have large patches of violets your best option may be to use a nonselective herbicide like horticultural vinegar or Citrus oil product (see above website) to control violets
For stiltgrass - that's going to be difficult

the next link is fact sheet about weed control from the Univserity of Maryland Extension
https://extension.umd.edu/resource/lawn-herbicides-weed-control
Steve Dubik

Steve Dubik
Master Gardener Coordinator
University of Maryland Extension, Montgomery County
18410 Muncaster Road
Derwood, MD 20855                                                            
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Master Gardener Coordinator
University of Maryland Extension, Montgomery County
18410 Muncaster Road
Derwood, MD 20855                                                            
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On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:49 PM Alan Esenstad <<personal data hidden>> wrote:
Hi, Miri,

I dropped off a lunch bag earlier this week with 2 plastic bags.  In each of those bags, there was one weed sample for Steve to review.  The lunch bag was marked to Steve's attention.

One might be Japanese stiltgrass or something similar.

The other might be creeping charlie, wild violet or some other sort of ivy.

I don't think Steve has been to the office.

Are you at the office on Friday and maybe you could look at those samples, if he's not going to be in on Friday?

I'm really eager to get some information on the weeds that are spreading in my yard.

Thanks so much.

Alan Esenstad


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The Question Asker Replied August 06, 2021, 3:25 PM EDT

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