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Identify specific Oak Tree #756784

Asked June 17, 2021, 11:57 AM EDT

Looking for replacement for diseased ASH. Two block away...Neighbor has 4 Oaks, planted some 50+ yrs ago that have done well. Current owner (not original planter) has no idea rel. their trees. Could you please have someone look at the photos I will furnish and perhaps help me identify first: Is this white or red oak family...and second....could you help ident. the specific version of Oak....eg. Bur oak, Chestnut oak, Chinkapin oak, English oak, Swamp chestnut oak, White oak, or Swamp white oak etc.

Rock Island County Illinois

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Identify specific Oak Tree

Looking for replacement for diseased ASH. Two block away...Neighbor has 4 Oaks, planted some 50+ yrs ago that have done well. Current owner (not original planter) has no idea rel. their trees. Could you please have someone look at the photos I will furnish and perhaps help me identify first: Is this white or red oak family...and second....could you help ident. the specific version of Oak....eg. Bur oak, Chestnut oak, Chinkapin oak, English oak, Swamp chestnut oak, White oak, or Swamp white oak etc.

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The Question Asker Replied June 17, 2021, 12:33 PM EDT

This is information from our Iowa State Extension and Outreach Horticulture Specialist

The tree in the photos is a Pin Oak (Quercus palustris). Pin oak is in the red oak group. Pin oak was a popular tree to plant in Iowa several decades ago, but is not typically recommended for Iowa gardeners today as they often develop iron chlorosis, which causes the leaves to turn a yellow-green color that does not look healthy. Not all pin oaks develop this condition, as evidenced by the trees in your neighbors yard, but it is very common and difficult to treat. More information about iron chlorosis in pin oak can be found here: https://hortnews.extension.iastate.edu/faq/why-are-leaves-my-pin-oak-yellow-green.

While this particular species is not typically recommended, there are many other species of shade tree that can be good options for replacing an ash tree. That list can be found here: https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/14438 Click on the “download” button in the middle of the page to download and open the free pdf file. If an oak similar to pin oak is desired, consider red oak, chinkapin oak, or shingle oak.

Thank you very much, for prompt response. 

It seems that on reading more rel. choices of Oaks...is this common warning:
"Oak wilt is one devastating disease that strikes oak trees. It's a fungal disease that can quickly kill the trees, but some oaks are less susceptible and these take several years to succumb to the infection. Any tree in the white oak group, such as white oaks (Q. alba), swamp oak (Q. bicolor), shumard oak (Q. shumardii), bur oak (Q. macrocarpa), post oak (Q, stellata), Mexican white oak (Q. polymorpha), lacy oak (Q. laceyi) and chinkapin oak (Q. muehlenbergii) show some tolerance to the disease. However, all oaks, no matter what kind, are susceptible to oak wilt."

Another consideration I found:
"When provided with the proper space and soil volume, it can be used successfully as a street tree. However, it is essential to note that this species does not form a central leader naturally, and the branches tend to droop as the trunk and branches grow in size. Therefore, it is imperative to structurally prune the tree to a central leader when it is young and to prune the lower limbs to avoid violating line of sight requirements. Local ordinances regarding line of sight regulations may vary by community. Typically, the lower crown should be raised to a height of 8 feet along sidewalks and at least 14 feet adjacent to streets."

I fully realize what is considered good today, may in future...possibly...turn to poor...rel. choice of a shade tree.  Just for your info. pls. see the attached photos of my front yard (Entire Lot is 80' wide, with clay soil), showing where the current/failing Marshall's Seedless Ash is located....and we would like to replace same (after removal), yet this fall.

Considering only White versions of Oak trees....Would you personally have any thoughts/recommendation(s) of a replacement tree?

Thank you.
Ed M.







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Subject: Re: Identify specific Oak Tree (#0026715)
 
The Question Asker Replied June 18, 2021, 2:02 PM EDT

Here is the response from our Iowa State University Extension and Outreach horticulturist for your second question.

My top choice for replacing an ash tree is not typically an oak of any species. Two reasons for this are the concerns you presented related to the disease, oak wilt and the fact that most neighborhoods often already have a fair percentage of the tree canopy already in an oak species. Diversity of tree species in residential neighborhoods is highly desirable to prevent future catastrophic tree canopy losses if disease or insect issues emerge as they did for ash species and the Emerald Ash Borer and for American elm species with Dutch Elm Disease. (as a note: this is also why maples are not typically high on my list of trees to replace ash – most neighborhoods have a lot of maple trees.)

If you wish to plant an oak, as mentioned, all are susceptible to oak wilt, but those in the white oak group are less so. I would consider planting, in this order, swamp white oak (Quercus bicolor), white oak (Quercus alba), English oak (Quercus robur), or some of the hybrids between these species such as Quercus xbinumdorum ‘Crimschmidt’ – Crimson Spire™ oak.

Other tree species to consider apart from oak include, Kentucky coffeetree (Gymnocladus dioicus), gingko (Ginkgo biloba), hackberry (Celtis occidentalis), linden (Tilia sp.), and hybrid elm cultivars (Ulmus sp.), especially cultivars like Patriot, Pioneer, Frontier, Accolade, and Triumph.

Happy gardening!

--Aaron

Thank you for prompt replay.
FYI, the 
Linden (Tilia sp.) is a variety that locally seems to be super attractive to Japanese Beetles....denuding entire trees.

Ed M.


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The Question Asker Replied June 23, 2021, 8:16 AM EDT

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