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Shady Spot help needed in Zone 3 #754909

Asked June 08, 2021, 6:30 PM EDT

Hello, I've been researching Zone 3 perennials for a "shady/some sun" spot in my yard. I'm hoping to find something that would love being a durable filler between paving stones. I've found endless choices but they aren't zone 3 winter tolerant or they don't care for foot traffic :( My local garden centers, in Becker & Hubbard county, have offered no help and only suggest things like Creeping Thyme in one gallon pots. I've was told it would be difficult to separate for planting in between the pavers. I need a better plan than that. We've tried for years to grow grass in this spot. My husband and I have hauled in endless dirt, roped this area off with special shady/hard to grow grass seeds and have done a lot of "hoping and wishing." Unfortunately, there's a giant Pine tree in this area and it drops a lot of pine needles. I've attached a image of the pavers. I'm currently working on this area so there's a lot of equipment, hoses, and tools everywhere. The entire work area has questionable ground cover at best. I'm so hoping to find something that will work in this beautiful spot. This is an area between two cabins that share a joining lawn space. It does get wind from the lake and deep snow coverage in the winter. My grandmother would say, that I'm trying to make "A silk purse from a sows ear!" :) Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. We've been tackling this project for nearly twenty years and so need a solution. Thank you for your every effort on our behalf. Sincerely, ~ Janis & Ricky

Becker County Minnesota

Expert Response

I doubt it will be very satisfied  with my advice either. What are you would like to do is grow grass in soil that is compacted, shady, and gets and retains very little water. The site is also exposed to wind. Very few plants tolerate these conditions and even fewer thrive. A solution that would look good and be far less work than what you have attempted that’s far would be to mulch heavily around the pavers every year. Mulch can provide a finished look that is durable and suppresses weeds. I would dress up the path with a random selection of clumps of plants from the list in and the link. Creeping thyme, sweet woodruff, and bugleweed clumps would add interest. Can take them a while to become established so it would help to  think about this as a three year project. Mulch will create the most successful carpet.

https://www.flower-gardening-made-easy.com/shade-ground-covers.html

Thank you for this, I will get to work!  Sorry to say that I'm not understanding what type of mulch you're referring too?  Up until now I've only used wood chip mulch and that doesn't sound right.  I'm happy to mix or seek the mulch you suggest.  I think it'll work on the other side of our place too, it sounds exactly what me need.  

I looked up your suggestions and love all three!  I especially like the Sweet Woodruff but I worry about it invading my neighbor's yard.  Rightfully so, she's already upset with me about the Snow on the Mountain that found it's way into her yard :(

This is the first year I've focused on long blooming, pollinating perennials.  We live on the lake and feed many (as in many!) Hummingbirds.  We're also home to many insects and Butterflies.  If you have any top suggestions for attracting and helping our pollinators I'd be happy to start working on the list.  We don't have a lot of space, but what I plant I'd like to be "perennial beneficial." 

My only education is experience and endless online research.  We only get a few months of beautiful garden, I'd like to make the most of it for both myself and the lovely visitors I share it with.

Thank you! Thank you!
~ Janis
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On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 06:09:19 AM CDT, Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:


The Question Asker Replied June 09, 2021, 12:41 PM EDT

Sweet woodruff isn’t very aggressive, it thankfully is nothing like snow on the mountain. It spreads slowly in my garden. It also has a lovely fragrance.  I suggest a wood chip mulch, they last longer than shredded bark. 
It is possible to find mulches made of rubber if you decide you never want to change it. 

PS Love the stationary, you are the first to send it and I have been answering questions for 15 years.

How wonderful of you to notice.  I always try and brighten someone's day, but oftentimes it irritates them.  I've come to believe, those it rubs wrong, don't have a garden! 

If you have Yahoo mail at home you'll notice the choices along the bottom.  The borders/stationary icon is a card with a solid heart in on the front.  If you click on that you can scroll through the choices.  I almost always pick a flower or greenery of some sort.  Other sites may have it too.  

Thank you so much for your help.  Once I get my work done, I'm going after this project once and for all.  Now to hunt down some Sweet woodruff.



On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 03:44:11 PM CDT, Ask Extension <<personal data hidden>> wrote:


The Question Asker Replied June 09, 2021, 5:12 PM EDT

Unfortunately the Gmail I use is not nearly as much fun. Thanks for the day Brightener and good luck with your project.

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