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sick Doug fir and Ponderosa #752356

Asked May 26, 2021, 4:33 PM EDT

I have a Douglas fir tree that has lots of dead needles, holes in the trunk (from birds?), and looks "thin". Two photos attached I also have a Ponderosa pine with lots of mostly-brown needles. I found no "D" shaped beetle holes. One photo attached Please advise Thank You

Larimer County Colorado

Expert Response

Hi James,

These appear to be trees in a more natural area and not a maintained landscape. I will assume that these are trees that don't receive regular irrigation?

Unfortunately the ponderosa pine is in decline. As to why, I just can't speculate based on the information given. We haven't really seen any outbreaks of mountain pine beetle in recent years.

You may consider contacting either a certified arborist to assess the trees (http://www.treesaregood.com)

Or contact the State Forest Service and see if there are any insect outbreaks in your area that have been reported: https://csfs.colostate.edu/areas/

Pines and spruce, overall, were hit hard by the October cold snap in 2020, followed by a very dry, cold, windy winter. The new growth on these trees looks good, if the trees are healthy enough to push the new growth.

Also, because of the drought, we saw a lot more needle drop last fall than normal.

Alison O'Connor, PhD Replied May 27, 2021, 9:26 PM EDT
Thank you, Dr. O'Conner,  You are correct that these trees are not regularly irrigated.  We have about three acres on a hillside near Estes Park, and are fighting off invasives but otherwise letting things take their course.  I am hopeful that it's drought stress and the wet spring will be "just what the doctor ordered." 

Thanks for the link to the state forest service.  I will see what they have to say.  My primary concern is insects; losing a tree now and then to drought, wind, etc. is to be expected, but if either the Doug fir or pine are infested with some insect that will migrate to nearby trees, we want to intervene. 

  --  Jim Swaney 

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The Question Asker Replied May 27, 2021, 10:22 PM EDT

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