Tree identification spruce? fir? cross? - Ask Extension
These trees grow in our neighborhood. A local landscaper said he has only seen them in one other place but can’t recall their name. I have called ...
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Tree identification spruce? fir? cross? #725282
Asked September 19, 2020, 1:29 PM EDT
These trees grow in our neighborhood. A local landscaper said he has only seen them in one other place but can’t recall their name. I have called them White Spruce, but don’t think they fit the criteria. The needles are flat and soft like a fir, but have a woody attachment like a spruce and grow completely around the branch in every direction. It could be environment, but every tree has dead limbs from the bottom to at least half way up before the thin straight branches show any green. You can see where the dead branches have been cut in the pics. It’s worth noting that the dead branches were cut 5 to 6 years ago and the new small growths along the trunk are recent (this year). We are slowly cutting these messy trees out of the area so more desirable vegetation and trees can grow, but am not sure exactly what I’m cutting. Can you help? Thanks, Keith... ps; if more info is needed just let me know....
Emmet County Michigan
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Hello,
I am wondering if it would be possible to take some more photos. When I try to zoom in to see the needle details it gets very blurry. It would be helpful to see a closeup of the needle and the needle attachment. Also if you could give me an idea of length of needle.
Thank you !
I am wondering if it would be possible to take some more photos. When I try to zoom in to see the needle details it gets very blurry. It would be helpful to see a closeup of the needle and the needle attachment. Also if you could give me an idea of length of needle.
Thank you !
Photos attached...
I have sent a pic that I formatted in the “large” size in case that helps viewing...
Hello,
Thanks for those additional photos. The tree is a balsam fir. Here is some information on this species: https://plants.usda.gov/factsheet/pdf/fs_abba.pdf
Thanks for those additional photos. The tree is a balsam fir. Here is some information on this species: https://plants.usda.gov/factsheet/pdf/fs_abba.pdf
Thank you so much. Turns out to be a common tree after all, though at the southern tip of it’s range. I asked many people, some who have experience in the area, and had NO consensus. Plus, none of them came up with the correct answer. It may be that the tree is generally unhealthy in our area due the make up of the forest (old fir growth mixed with a lot of new maples crowding them out) and are not shaped and needled like a healthy specimen. Thanks for your help. I will now astound my neighbors with my arborist knowledge.
I am glad to help. If you are interested in what is probably contributing to the "messiness" of these trees, you may be interested in the following information. https://www.fs.usda.gov/naspf/sites/default/files/publications/na-fr-02-96how_to_identify_and_manage... Needle cast diseases affect many of the evergreen trees in Michigan. Treatment of such large trees may be very costly, removal may be the best option. For replacement trees that may be less disease-prone, see the following list put together by MSU: https://www.canr.msu.edu/home_gardening/trees-shrubs/selection