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Sumac identification and use of pods in bee keeping #354818

Asked August 20, 2016, 8:51 AM EDT

Hi, I understand that sumac pods can be dried and are good material for use in bee keeping smokers.

While Sumac is prevalent in our Southwest Michigan area I am unaware as to what type sumac is used for this purpose and how to identify what is found on our property. Of course even without use for beekeeping we need to be aware if what we have is a "poison" variety of Sumac.

I would appreciate hearing from someone who can assist us on this matter. Pictures for identification can be provided to expert for identification purposes.


St. Joseph County Michigan

Expert Response

Can you please send us a picture of the Sumac? Thank you!
Gwyn Shelle Replied August 20, 2016, 11:59 AM EDT

Attached are a few pictures. If you need better ones of leaves or "pods" please let me know. I have a couple other pictures currently I can send as well but as mentioned if you need a closer or clearer view of pods or leaves let me know.

As far as I know the sumac on the lot we have across the road and on the same property as the lot our house is on are both the same variety of sumac. But will need your assistance to confirm by what you see in the pictures. 


The Question Asker Replied August 21, 2016, 6:16 PM EDT
This is staghorn sumac and is not poison sumac. Poison sumac has white fruit in pendulous clusters and is found in wet to swampy soils.

I will seek pass along your question to one of our entomologists for input on your question about using sumac for beekeeping smokers.


Thank you for using Ask an Expert! Replied August 24, 2016, 2:01 PM EDT
The fruiting parts of these plants are excellent bee smoker fuel. They burn low and long. Go ahead and use them. I like to start my smoker with something more flammable, like paper, wood chips, or drier lint, and then put one or two of these red bunches over top.
Ben Phillips Replied August 26, 2016, 6:24 AM EDT

Thanks for the info. I would assume, but don't know for certain, that the pods would require a period of time for drying them first prior to using them. If so do you have any idea as to how long they need to dry and or can be stored? 

The Question Asker Replied August 26, 2016, 7:03 AM EDT
I have never paid special attention to their moisture content. But, I usually pick whatever is left in the early spring and the stuff out of deer's reach are pretty well dried by then.



Ben Phillips Replied August 26, 2016, 7:23 AM EDT

Okay thanks! That is a good idea regarding spring and the pods out of deer reach. Will try storing a few in the fall and see how they function compared to the ones saved in spring.

Someone also suggested cedar chip bedding so I may get some of that too and use some of it with the pods to start them smoking and see how that combination works as well. I like the idea of putting dryer vent material to use in this regard as well. Will try to save some of that through the winter for use next spring.

Thanks again for the input and good ideas!

 

The Question Asker Replied August 26, 2016, 7:45 AM EDT

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