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Spots on leaves, Japanese maple #350140

Asked August 04, 2016, 8:12 PM EDT

I keep getting a discoloration to the leaves of flower plants and my Japanese maple. (see photos). I was told it was a tar spot, but it does not resemble the photos I see of tar spots. So what is this? How do I make it stop?

Genesee County Michigan

Expert Response

It is NOT tar spot which are black, rounded spots that resemble a spot of tar on only maple leaves.  It is fungal in nature.

The Japanese maple looks like it has sun scald or just fried in the hot sun.  It does not do well if the soil is dry and there is afternoon, hot sunlight.  It looks burned.  If tissue is missing from the leaves, it can't be seen in the photo.

You do not mention what the other photo is of, other than "flower plants." This makes it difficult to know what is possible.  Is damage currently happening?  Or is no new damage going on?  Obviously, if nothing more is being eaten, the pest has run its course and left.  Pests like Japanese beetle or Asiatic garden beetle may or may not be around but this does not really look like their damage.  Whatever was eating appears to have striped off the leaf surface, leaving veins... but the photo is not really clear.  These might be holes.

Take one leaf. Consider using a marker and circling areas that are chewed.  Look in several days and see if more spots are missing.  It does no good to spray an insect that is not there or you cannot find one.  Look in the early morning or early evening for leaf chewers. 

These spots will never repair themselves.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied August 10, 2016, 3:24 PM EDT
Thank you for the response. The maple sits on the east side of the house so it gets the morning, early afternoon sun and it has been 90 plus the last month or so. I will try more water to see if that helps the rest of the summer and next summer. I'm not sure what the flower plant is. The damage is current. It looks like little bugs were burned into the leaves but when I touch it, it's not a bug. It's just discolored as shown in the photo. They aren't holes; at least, I can't see through it or put my finger in it. I will try your suggestion and see if I can get a better photo. If the spots won't repair, is the only way to get rid of them to get rid of the plant or maple? I don't really want to do that :)
The Question Asker Replied August 10, 2016, 8:19 PM EDT

Insects do not burn anything into leaves.  They can feed on the leaf surface, just removing a small bit of tissue, leaving veins.  That is an indication that it is not a large insect.

If you mean burrow instead of burn, there are tiny insects called leaf miners.  They essentially mine the interior of the leaf.  Once they get into the leaf, they cannot be touched by pesticides.  And you still did not tell me what plant the picture was of... other than "flower plants."  With this amount of non-information, I can't even look up information on possible pests. 

If everybody destroyed all the plants in their yards because there was a small amount of damage, there would be no plants.  The leaves are damaged THIS season... next year is a do-over.  New leaves, no damage.  But if you cannot find an insect, spraying pesticide on drought and heat-stressed plants is going to cause a great deal of damage. Or if it is a leaf miner, pesticides cannot penetrate the leaf.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied August 11, 2016, 10:14 AM EDT
As I said in my initial response: "I'm not sure what the flower plant is." I'm not a gardener and have no clue. However, I asked a neighbor and he said it's a hibiscus. I took a close up of the leaf today and I can now see that what appeared to be burn spots are now holes. I attached a photo of one hibiscus petal that shows the bugs I get every year eating leaves. I spray bug killer on the plants but these bugs seem immune.
The Question Asker Replied August 11, 2016, 7:21 PM EDT

The insect in the photo is a Japanese beetle.  It strips the tissue off the leaves and can eventually chew through the leaf. Often, all that is left of parts of the leaf is veins. They are usually beginning g to feed at the very end on June or the very beginning of July.

Since "bug killer" could be any one of a dozen products, it is hard to say why your Japanese beetles did not die.  The product could be old or stored in a garage where it froze and thawed over the winter or it may be ineffective for Japanese beetles... like insecticidal soap. 

Try a different product.  Cyfluthrin is the active ingredient in a product made by Bayer called Carpenter Ant and Termite Spray.  It is a concentrate that is mixed in water and sprayed on.  The product carries an extended label so ornamentals and a number of different applications can be found.  It should not be that hard to find.  Often the big box stores have it.  Follow the directions.  But make sure that plants are sprayed in the evening when the sun is off the plants and the plants are not moisture-stressed.

An Ask Extension Expert Replied August 12, 2016, 10:51 AM EDT

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