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Brown Spots on cars #211526

Asked September 09, 2014, 11:53 AM EDT

Over the last couple of weeks I have been getting a brown deposit on my cars and lawn furniture. Seems to happen over night and not every night. I have been putting out sheets of white paper to collect samples. Happened last night Monday Sept 8th and a couple of nights ago. Last week I found the deposits on both cars and could not wash it off. Spots are very dense about 5 to 10 per sq. inch and from pin point size to about 1/8 inch. Any ideas? My neighbor also has some but in other areas of the county, I do not see this. I am in Upper Burrell Twp, Westmoreland County.

County Pennsylvania

Expert Response

Hi:
Is your car parked under a tree?  If so, do you know what tree species?
An Ask Extension Expert Replied September 09, 2014, 2:37 PM EDT

We are on 19 wooded acres so there are lots of trees.  The problem happens whether parked under trees or not.  Closest to our driveway  are Walnut, Maple and Oak.  There are also lots of Cherry and Pine.  Also all manner of weed trees such as Ash.  Ragweed etc.  I n the 15 years we have had the property I don't recall this happening before.



The Question Asker Replied September 09, 2014, 7:33 PM EDT
Hi:
I don't have any ideas yet.  Any chance you can send a picture?
An Ask Extension Expert Replied September 10, 2014, 9:02 AM EDT
Paper on top of playhouse has been there about 2 weeks.  White truck hood about 1 week.
The Question Asker Replied September 10, 2014, 9:59 AM EDT
Do the spots wash off?  They look like they start to smear after getting wet.  (I'm assuming that is what caused the spread, particularly the ones on paper.)
An Ask Extension Expert Replied September 10, 2014, 10:13 AM EDT

I can wash them off but it is very difficult.  Ordinary car wash doesn't do it.  I find that in the early morning when the car is covered with dew, I can wash it off but when it has dried, it won't come off.  I used Scrubbing Bubbles bathroom cleaner with some success.

Yes, as near as I can tell it first appears as a small black dot and when it gets wet, it spreads into the brown ring.


The Question Asker Replied September 10, 2014, 10:28 AM EDT
I think you would have mentioned this, but I'll ask. Have you noticed lots of house flies around?  They leave fecal spots wherever they land.  The spots are usually black. It would have to be a lot of flies to make so many spots, but you would have noticed them.
An Ask Extension Expert Replied September 10, 2014, 10:37 AM EDT

No, fewer flies than usual.  Unless they are swarming in the middle of the night I don't think that is it.


The Question Asker Replied September 10, 2014, 10:48 AM EDT
I don't know what this is.  Does anyone else near you have this issue?
An Ask Extension Expert Replied September 10, 2014, 11:39 AM EDT

Yes, my neighbor has it but to a lesser degree.

A friend of mine suggested the "artillery fungus".  I never heard of that and I do not have wood mulch.


The Question Asker Replied September 10, 2014, 12:04 PM EDT
Artillery fungus grows in mulch or leaf litter (lots of decaying material).  They shoot spore packets up that stick to surfaces, but they don't fade and don't come off with soap.  I don't think it is them.  I've never seen them like this either.

I'm not sure what to tell you.
An Ask Extension Expert Replied September 10, 2014, 12:42 PM EDT

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